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Keith Williams
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: New to me 4600
Friends on Ford Board, I know you guys like to see pics of new tractors so here are mine. She is not pretty but she is a working girl. Keith

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
Nice tractor. Thanks for the pictures.

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600

All,
The numbers on the plate are.
Tractor Number : C579671
Model : DA214C Ford 4600 AP Diesel Ind 540 PTO 8x2
Unit : 8F26B
Engine : 8F01A
Trans : 8E03C
Rear : 8E19C
Hyd Pump : 8F26B
Hyd Lift : 8E22A
All the numbers appear to be correct. Delivered on 12-14-78.
The tractor is mostly original. They cut it up some putting the roll bar on.
It also sat out a lot, thus the rust.
I found one number on the left side of the Trans case that I don't know what it's for or how to decode.
G70K22 It was above or below the 8E03C trans build date code.
Thanks for looking.
Keith Williams

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
All, This is a picture of my 1964 4000 that the 4600 is augmenting. She is waiting in the wings ready to jump in if I call on her. I just don't know if that will happen. This 4600 Diesel is so much more powerful than the 4000 gas. I can do much more on less fuel. Thanks again for looking. Keith

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600

Good looking tractor, looks to be original except the 5000 rounded fenders and the roll bar.
The 4000-4600-4610-4630 Fords are just a nice sized tractor.
No real big but big enough to handle a good bit of equipment.
My 4000 is big enough to handle the NH640 round baler I had, will handle my 9 ft trailed disc mower and 10ft brush hog.
But it's small enough to use my tiller on for gardens as well as box blade and other smaller size implements.
I've had my 4000 for over 26 years, if I had to sell my tractors the 4000 would be the last to go

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
Destroked 450, I agree on the 4600 being a nice size. I was very happy to find one. I had a 7200 from 1981 thru 2003. Handled the baler and tillage. The old 4000 is all I kept when I quit in 03. I also had a Farmall H. The 4000 is just a little light on power, light in weight, and the brakes are just OK. Thanks for looking! Keith

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
I grew up on a 850 with the 5 spd trans, their a work horse for their size. Just so we're clear my 4000 is a 69 model, early version of your 4600

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600

Destroked 450,
Yes very clear. My 4000 gas would be just like an 860.
I have been doing around 100 hours of work with it per year maintaining the farm while my tenant does the crops I used to do (116 Acres).
My cousin has a 1966 4000 gas SOS. This 4600 is a jump up from both of them.
I have got to believe that it puts out more than the rated 52 PTO horsepower. I know my 7200 was rated at 84 but Dynoded at 98.
Do you know of anyone that put one of these on a Dyno?
Keith

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600

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I have got to believe that it puts out more than the rated 52 PTO horsepower. I know my 7200 was rated at 84 but Dynoded at 98. Do you know of anyone that put one of these on a Dyno?

The Nebraska test for the 3 cylinder diesel 4000 with an 8 speed shows 52.65 hp at the PTO. The 4600 with a diesel and 8 speed tested at 52.44. Those Nebraska PTO tests are done on a dyno.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:13 am Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
I've owned Ford tractors from an 801 to a TW25 and a 4600 was my favorite.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:53 am Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
I had a 4600 from Belgium I guess as it was equipped in European fashion, tires (lotta steel and not much rubber) and road safety lighting, turn signals and all. I hear over there some folks use their tractors as their cars. Nice trouble free tractor. Had the OEM canopy which I really liked.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600

Sean,
Talking to an 'old' Ford guy in this area, he stated that a new tractor would indeed be just a little over rated HP.
(I would think Nebraska tests would be with new tractors.) He went on that in his experience, once a Ford diesel of that vintage got broken in good,
the HP would go up some. Though he did not have 'data' to back him up.
I guess I am also seeing the difference in torque produced in the 3+ engines I have personally run.
My 7000 row crop (7200) was the highest of course but this 4600 really can push thru and surprised me.
The old style 4000 gas just can not compare.
Thanks Sean
PS Sean did you see my note about the 'extra' number I found on the tractor by the Trans date made code? Any idea what it is?

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
I've seen those 'extra' numbers on a lot of transmissions. I am not sure what they are. I remember someone posting a few years back that they thought they were some kind of code for the exact internal build information for the transmission or something like that but I can't remember the specifics, and I think they were only guessing.

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:56 am Post subject: Re: New to me 4600
Sean, Thank You! You provide so much value to us! Keith

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: New to me 4600

CVPost-keith williams wrote:

(quoted from post at 18:42:55 07/13/1 I would think Nebraska tests would be with new tractors.

The Nebraska tractor tests have been in place since 1919 and they have always used a dynamometer. The tested 'belt hp' at the beginning as the modern PTO hadn't been invented yet and most powered implements were driven by belts and pulleys back then. Once modern 'standard' PTO's started showing up in tractors they converted the Nebraska tests to measure the shaft PTO hp instead of the belt hp.

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